UPC vs. HaHa Jr

Whew! Tons and tons of messages today. First off, Elle Jade is still acting diplomat for UPC. brbdc is the defacto diplomat speaking for HA Jr in anything involved in UPC.

I'm still diplomating in regards to a bad trade swindle a RUMR guy took Midnite reaper for (30K crystal stolen and given to a UPCer to make dive ships.) I'm going to try to settle it without pulling RUMR's strings... passing it off as a bad miscommunication at the moment. Also got OLY up my butt about one of our guys hitting one of their inactives. I'm pretty sure that isn't going to blow up into anything, tho. I don't think OLY knew that their guy was inactive.

If we want to reach out to another alliance about this issue, TNT may be a good choice. If you read the boards, there is a thread regarding UPC's flaunted 1vs1 rule that TNT had issues with back in October. Just a thought.

I've got a lot of HAHA members screaming for blood and our own HA Jr. DOW. As it stands, I'm telling them that I take my instructions from HAHA council, and there will be no DOW until a choice is made by wiser heads than mine. I'm saying: Kill, kill, kill- but don't break the bashing rule.

Just let me know what you guys want me to do.

Tell people to return to HaHa and we will deal with it from here.

Done! I've sent out the recall message.

CA told me last nite:

On the 14.12.2010 2:17 ceaser angus wrote:
> I think holding pat for a few days to see what happens would be a good idea.. then we start bring you guys home. You being the first one then the rest.. After that we work on the integration of HA jr into a legitimate training alliance..
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> On the 14.12.2010 1:37 TIMALMIGHTY wrote:
> > Since the war is over what do you want us to do ???

Seeing as how the HAHA guys are not quite running back with the speed of a thousand gazelles, I'll keep that order to recall active. I'm sure they want to take a last few leftovers before they have to move troops there and back again.

Tim, if you go back now, I can see when you are online, then message people who are also online to let them know you are home and ready to take them in.

I'm also going to kick up two new faces for you guys- we had two people "graduate" during this festival, so look for love monkey and padre to join up with HAHA along with the rest of the gang.

:-) Good job folks..

I'm still talking a lot to HAHA members remaining in HA Jr. Some have a few last digs they want to get in before they have to lose the deployment rights to the HA Jr. towns they are parked in. I'm trying to rush it along.

I want to divest HA Jr of the visiting HAHA members asap, dropping us down all the way on the Alliance high score board. Once ya'll are gone, we are going to look like feeble little infants compared to UPC. At that time HAHA can say something like:
"Look, everyone! THIS is what HA Jr. looked like BEFORE we pumped up their scores. THIS is the alliance UPC was bullying. We sent just enough warriors to even up the score with UPC's diplomats FULL KNOWLEDGE. We made our point that no one messes with our training alliance. Now, UPC has withdrawn their DOW, with the statement that they can terrorize and bully smaller alliances any time they see fit. Now they are about to find out that just ain't so. "

Does that sound about right?

Seems like there's still fighting going on...

Can we please bury UPC and get on to dealing with our internal issues, like the council and the direction of the training alliance?

UPC update:

So far, all UPC is doing is trying to free their own turf from HA Jr. occupation and build up military scores.

oneshot is up to 20k ms.

As yet, no "fresh" attacks on HA Jr. turf.

I'm still working on getting all the HAHA warriors back home.

I'm leaning towards an all-out offense without the DoW. Anyone else for or against?

Normally I would be against it but picking on a training alliance is something else. Let me know what I can do to help with either troops, gold or supplies

i think we should go for it asap.
and oneshot is in v mode.

Lets move on them now... un officially...

Go for it. When they ask why, I'll give them terms

Cool. Thats the HAHA guys.
The leaders let the warriors loose.
The diplomat is confident to handle whatever comes down the way.

We can phrase it like:

While we got an apology from the acting diplomat, more can be gleaned from what the most vocal player is saying. If the alliance feels that way, we will continue to attack. At least until the alliance shows that it feels otherwise, by distancing themselves from said player.

Something like that. Can we start terms at the faerie being booted?

Absolutely .....

Yep. I will look for messages although I feel like UPC has nothing in their bag right now. Most of them are AFK and wont be around till holidays are over.

What should Ha Jr's role be in this? Hold tight and keep a defensive position? Allow the HAHA members lingering here (and the HA Jrs who wish to join) fight also?

I don't think any of us are in any position to send gold. UPC's run and hide tactics were very costly.

I think KS, you should ask your members to concentrate on consolidation. Help them learn the game and increase the scores real fast.

We need more of the likes of medic and anchor(the young enthusiasm) to come up and join in here.
Now that this is a HAHA insult directly from that fairy guy, we will go around making him cry.

We dont want the young ones to face any retaliations out of that fairy's frustrations on the young ones trying to learn.

I agree. We'll get julez moved over and starting to work with you.

Is there a place on the boards where our smaller members can pan-handle without looking like total jerks?

I'd like to get them involved in the hetre boards, and nothing rewards a smaller player quite as fast as the possibility of free resources.

Ceaser can do that. A subsection for HaHa Jr, maybe? By where the squad rooms are?

As predicted. Elle Jade is messaging me about resolving the conflict. I am going to bounce the idea of just letting active players duke it out for a while. I will present some obsurd terms in a couple days and then we can wrap it up after Christmas.

KS wrote:
I'd like to get them involved in the hetre boards, and nothing rewards a smaller player quite as fast as the possibility of free resources.

I think we can all pool in a little resource to send over to Jr. I know very well how helpful it is in the first few days.